EP 42 · CISO InterviewsJUL 15, 2026 · 30 MINWhy Agents Can't Be Governed Like People with Amazon Web Services VP & CISO Amy Herzog
Amy Herzog — VP & CISO, Amazon Web Services
On the 42nd episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, host Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) is joined by Amy Herzog, VP & CISO at Amazon Web Services. AWS is the world's largest cloud provider, and its active defense systems process more than 400 trillion network flows every day. Amy explains why AI changes the speed and cost of security rather than its fundamentals, why vulnerability management is collapsing from a month to minutes, and why autonomous agents need their own identity and authorization models rather than the controls built for people.
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