On the 46th episode of Enterprise Software Innovators, host Evan Reiser (Abnormal Security) talks with Munir Hafez, CIO of TransUnion. TransUnion specializes in credit reporting, fraud detection, and data analytics. With a team of over 19,000 employees and over $3.6 billion in annual revenue the company impacts more than a billion people worldwide. In this conversation, Munir shares his thoughts on AI transforming business operations at TransUnion, balancing the potential of AI against the current hype cycle, and the future impact of AI in the enterprise.
AI is no longer just a concept from research labs—it's actively reshaping how businesses function, driving significant improvements in customer interactions and internal operations. For data-driven organizations like TransUnion, where managing vast amounts of sensitive information is central to its mission, AI presents transformative opportunities to enhance operational efficiency and foster more significant innovation. As Munir explains, AI is already playing a vital role in improving productivity, particularly in areas that involve repetitive tasks and large-scale data processing. "We're seeing real gains in productivity, especially around tasks like note-taking and document generation," he shares, emphasizing that these advancements have helped streamline work for teams across the company. One notable example is the integration of AI-powered tools like Microsoft 365 Copilot, which has been used to improve processes such as help desk support and documentation creation. AI has proven to be a game-changer in these instances by automating routine processes and enabling employees to focus their time and efforts on more strategic, value-driven activities. "It's not just about automating tasks; it's about freeing up our people to tackle higher-order challenges." By taking on mundane tasks, AI allows employees to contribute meaningfully to the company's growth and innovation.
While the potential of AI to evolve from a productivity booster to a transformational tool is being speculated on, Munir approaches its current state with a measured perspective, cautioning against the overestimation of its current capabilities. In a world where every major company is heavily investing in AI, there's a growing assumption that AI can solve all business challenges. While Munir acknowledges AI's significant strides, he emphasizes recognizing its limitations. "I think we're really at the peak of the hype cycle." To ensure TransUnion is making the most of its AI investments, Munir shares how the company is actively running pilots and assessments to identify high-value use cases. "We've created pilots for six weeks so teams can come in, try the tools, and help us understand how it helps them," Munir explains. This iterative approach enables TransUnion to pinpoint where AI can deliver the most significant impact while building the foundation for larger-scale AI adoption.
Looking ahead, Munir envisions a future where AI will become increasingly capable of performing more complex tasks, moving beyond simple productivity enhancements. For example, Munir believes AI will transition from assisting developers with tasks like writing test cases and documentation to developing entire capabilities. "I do think in the next three to five years, it is going to improve exponentially. It's probably going to go from a productivity tool to a massive boost to development efforts or quality of applications." At the same time, Munir acknowledges that organizations must develop internal expertise in prompt engineering and LLMs. He stresses the importance of creating custom LLMs trained on company-specific data, explaining that this approach will provide the most value for enterprises. "I do think prompt engineering [as a formal discipline] is going to be real…[since] having custom LLMs for the organization is how most companies are going to get the most value out of generative AI." TransUnion is already preparing for this shift by building specialized teams to manage and maintain these models, ensuring that AI's outputs are grounded in relevant, accurate data. "There's going to be centers of excellence responsible for bringing in the data," Munir explains. "The idea is to train the LLMs on your specific data to get the most meaningful answers rather than more generic ones." This foresight underscores TransUnion's commitment to unlocking AI's full potential in the years to come.
TransUnion's approach to AI reflects a thoughtful and strategic blend of innovation and practicality. Munir emphasizes AI's significant potential for the future, and the company's commitment to leveraging its capabilities in targeted areas demonstrates how AI can enhance business operations. Through iterative pilots and a multiyear roadmap, TransUnion is laying the groundwork for more sophisticated AI-driven solutions, ensuring the technology evolves with the company's needs. As AI continues to mature, TransUnion's focus on custom solutions, prompt engineering, and data-centric models positions the organization to capitalize on AI's full potential in the years ahead, driving efficiency and meaningful change across the enterprise.
Listen to Munir's episode here and read the transcript here.